Mac ’ s 消息 #48: 你的侦察活动提供资金

Mac 麦金太尔

Mac 麦金太尔

在过去的几个星期我的消息有集中在支持结构落实到位,帮助你在你侦察和斯密的作用. 我想在此邮件中讨论如何资助你的努力.

童军运动可以是非常昂贵. 一个利于进行侦察程序设计由美国童子军是显著的成本的运行质量程序. 它需要一个相当大的税收来源来基金参与在理事会主办的夏令营, 举办户外活动,每月, 购买设备和用品, 或者帮助孩子获得徽章和等级地位. 它是更容易和便宜,忽视侦察型活动都在一起,只是为了娱乐与乐趣你男孩家的活动.

根据教会政策, "斯密活动筹资, 包括童军活动,在那里他们被授权由教会, 应来自病房预算” (手册 2: 管理教会, 8.13.7). "筹款活动是不通常批准因为 股份和病房活动费用与预算资金. 作为一个例外, 铁砧总统或主教可以授权 一个 集团 筹款活动每年. 可能举行这样的活动筹集资金,用于下列目的 只有: 1) 帮助支付费用的一项年度营或类似活动, 和 2) 帮助购买单位需要年度难民营的设备" (手册 2, 13.6.8, 着重线后加). "如果病房预算并没有足够的资金来支付年度延长童子军营地或类似活动的年轻人, 各国领导人可能会问参与者支付部分或全部的它” (手册 2, 8.13.7, 着重线后加).

我经常听到 LDS 童军领袖抱怨,教会政策活动的经费不能提供足够的钱来资助质量侦察计划. 太多太多的成人童军领袖, 包括我自己, 花了大量的补充他们的侦察单位小预算他们个人的钱. 教会领袖们不赞成在这. 让我告诉你为什么.

耶和华所吩咐教会要远离债务的成员, 要节俭, 并明智地管理自己的财务管理. 他希望我们能够限制我们的需求和欲望,并把注意力集中在最重要的事情, 而不是寻求世界的物质的东西. When conducting Scouting and priesthood activities the Lord wants us to obey the part of the Scout Law directing us to be 节俭.

这意味着是男青年领导人不应该期望他们的侦察部队,要像一个社区单位, 每个男孩都被身着全副军装, 他们有充分匹配帐篷和质量野营装备侦察拖车, 和他们参加异国夏令营在遥远的高探险基地. 一个教会单位遵守上文所述的政策绝不可能这样的奢侈品. 也不是他们想要的.

主的旨意他侦察单位模型锡安, 这些人所在的一颗心和一个头脑, 和在他们中间没有穷人 (请参阅 Moses 7:18). 当教会改变了 20 世纪 80 年代在预算编制过程的病房, 我敢肯定有些病房的领导人被沮丧,因为它减少了他们的病房预算. 但我却狂喜不已. 在那个时候,我服役在佛罗里达州的柬埔寨分公司分公司担任主席. 由于我们的成员的贫困, 我们的病房预算是根据老的预算政策极小. 我们的资金是非常有限,我们不能做太多,我们的成员. 然而我们相遇在同一座楼里富裕的病房. 我们的成员忍不住但攀比 — — 和我们的活动 — — 与在其他病房里想的什么. 我们的成员感到分离从其他病房的存在不只是由于经济条件的成员的经济障碍, 但也正因为判别教会的财政政策. 我相信这可能是为什么教会领袖们改变政策的原因之一.

这就是为什么教会想要使用病房预算 第一次 为你的童军活动. 如果教会领导人达成入自己的腰包来支付更奢侈的侦察活动 — — 如超级夏令营, 精心设计先锋旅, 或多日远足探险在遥远的山脉 — — 因为领导人可以负担得起, 他们可能建立将来要求不太富裕的领导人不能持续的传统. 男孩很容易时能感觉到题为慷慨的领导人为他们提供侦察远远超过病房预算可以提供的经验. 此外, 如果年轻男性领导人支付活动关闭在收据的情况下, 主教的病房不能得到准确的感觉年轻男子程序的费用.

第二个童军活动的经费来源应该是年轻人自己. 童军运动的目的是教一个男孩要自力更生. 一个男孩需要学会如何在生活中支付他自己的方式. 如果侦察单位都有每年的日历, 单位应该知道它将会去哪儿夏令营提前一年. 父母和孩子应该知道它将成本的准确. 这给每个孩子足够的时间来制定储蓄计划,将资助他童军活动. 成人在病房可鼓励到祈祷有关他们可能会向孩子们帮助他们赚的钱为侦察提供的就业机会. 耶和华的帮助, 我敢肯定有很多工作在一个病房,帮助一个男孩获得他所需要的资金. 最重要, 在今年的劳动年轻人将学习努力工作, 要负责任, 并支付诚实的十分之一.

为资助你教会侦察单位最后一个方法是通过某项筹款活动. 这项活动应该是"有意义的值或服务",并提供"建立统一的积极经验" (手册 2, 13.6.8). 许多 LDS 侦察单位拿出国旗在国家法定节假日; 有些人认为意大利面条晚餐和拍卖; 其他人建立国家或国家公园围栏; 一些单位迎来在体育或社会事件; 而其他赞助商交换开会,他们的项目提供资金支持. LDS 侦察单位中也可"参加童军节目, camporees, 和牛血清白蛋白的其他活动涉及出售门票由男孩或年轻男子, 只要满足所有其他预算津贴准则" (在美国的教会单位侦察手册, 8.15). 此外注意到,"商业生产或包装的货物或服务不应出售" (8.15). Popcorn is considered to be a commercial product and thus the sale of popcorn is not approved as an LDS Scouting unit fundraiser. 年轻男子个人可以报名卖爆米花下他们 BSA 地方理事会作为支付他们自己的方式去夏令营的手段.

最后, 我恭敬地建议你让你的孩子要做基金募集. 如果你把旗帜, 让男孩们的人联系和募集的资金. 如果你吃意大利面条晚餐, 让孩子们做这项工作. 如果你有拍卖, 让男孩们收集货物和进行拍卖. 在我多年的球探, 我看到这么多的筹款情况,成人在哪里做所有的工作. 拍卖的救济协会姐妹烘焙. 男人做意大利面条晚餐. 童军领袖筹集资金的标志. 在这种情况下侦察程序这些捐赠资金很少进行互动与实际侦察员.

我给你的建议吗, 像福音 》 中的大多数事情一样, 你的球探筹资的努力应在祷告中进行. 也许是因为世俗性质的筹集资金, 有些领导人可能忽视请愿主来指导其供资努力. 我知道从经验主慈爱将会引导您做正确的事, 伸出给正确的人, 并找到合适的资源,以支持您的侦查程序. "律师与主同在你的所作所为, 他会直接和你寻求好" (母校 37:37).

花一点时间来反映

  • 你的童军活动计划尽量减少费用?
  • 你鼓励你的孩子们支付他们自己的方式去夏令营吗?
  • 你一个授权的年度筹款事件不生成最大可能的收入来资助你的童军活动吗?
  • 你的朋友们在筹款活动期间穿童军制服吗?
  • 你的朋友们做实际筹资, 而不是成人?
  • 你问过主引导你筹款的努力?

 

打开你的倒影变成行动

  • 你会开始做什么, 停止做, 或做得更好,因为你的倒影?

"节俭,是好的我们的财务福祉. 奢侈和放纵不是神. 他们是负面影响,造成严重后果的对我们. 当我们节俭的时候我们是自力更生, 能够自由地帮助那些需要帮助的人. 球探指示我们要明智与我们的资源" (沃恩 J. 费瑟斯通, "以我的荣誉,” 海军少尉, 2 月 2006).

 

-Mac 麦金太尔是专用的童军称颂许多人的生命,通过他的服务和急性对侦查程序的理解. 他目前住在拉斯维加斯, 内华达州. 此消息中表示的意见只是那些作者.

列印, PDF和电子邮件

  1. David 说:

    我不敢苟同, Uniform is one of the methods of Scouting! You state: “这意味着是男青年领导人不应该期望他们的侦察部队,要像一个社区单位, 每个男孩都被身着全副军装, 他们有充分匹配帐篷和质量野营装备侦察拖车” 我同意, a Scouting trailer full of matching tents and quality gear is not a method of Scouting but Uniform is! There are MANY ways to acquire full uniforms for your boys at reduced prices. Troop uniform bank, hand-me-downs, thrift sales, DI & 善意.
    Families find ways to pay for sports/music/academic activities that all require uniforms why not Scouts?

    1. JD 说:

      David

      I am guessing it was a slip. Mac wrote an earlier post about the importance of a uniform.

      See earlier post: http://www.ldsbsa.org/blog/macs-message-29-the-importance-of-the-scout-uniform/

    2. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

      David,

      I agree that the uniform is an important method of Scouting, as I stated in an earlier blog message, as long as the cost to uniform boys does not become too prohibitive. I agree that there are great ways to acquire uniforms. But not all areas of the Church in the U.S. have thrift stores or an abundance of boys (or adults) who have grown out of their old uniforms who can pass down their uniforms to others. Having lived in an inner city area where there is extreme poverty, I have seen many boys who did not become involved in Scouting because they could not afford a uniform. Nor could their family afford for them to be involved insports/music/academic activitiesthat required a capital investment. I would rather have my boys in only a Scout shirt than to not have them involved because a full uniform was required. Since the Church preaches so strongly about keeping costs down for involvement in any Church program, I stress that LDS Scouting units may not look like community units. Most non-LDS Scouting units I have experienced require a full uniform for participation. This is one area where the Church policy trumps BSA policy or standards.

  2. Bruno 卡斯特 说:

    I grow up in scouting doing great and meangfully fund raising to keep the program running, from helping the less fortunate scouts or helping us to get the things necessary to maintain our activities, whatever was for a simple troop camp or travel to jamborees , most the time the proces of doing it was far more memorable and fun , but also important that teached me about being self reliant .Great times!!

  3. JD 说:

    As I reflected, I thought how helping these boys do their own fundraising is also helping these boys to learn to pay their own way for their mission (and other things that are important).

  4. Lee Taylor 说:

    I also disagree that the uniform is an important part of being part of the Scout troop. I have a question regarding the ward budget. What is the guideline for how much of the ward budget should be allotted YM and Scouting? I have seen a big difference between wards which can make a big difference in what a troop can afford to do and have.

  5. 戴夫 说:

    Just a reminder that this website isn’t authorized by or doesn’t speak for The Church. Last I checked, the Young Men’s General Presidency issued a letter in 2005 stating that Popcorn Sales was an appropriate fundraiser for LDS Scouts. As far as I’m aware, that position hasn’t been rescinded or revised except for vague interpretations like those found in this article.

    1. JD 说:

      戴夫 – 在中 2005 Elder Dahlquist said we could sell popcorn, under the guidance in the handbook. The handbook has been updated and states:

      8.15 Funding Scouting
      Leaders should follow the budget allowance
      guidelines in Handbook 2 to fund Scouting (请参见
      8.13.7, 11.8.7, 13.2.8, 13.2.9, 13.5, 和 13.6.8). Ward
      budgets should be used to purchase Scouting
      awards and materials, as determined by local
      领导人. Commercially produced or packaged
      goods or services should not be sold

      If it is allowed under current rules, then I suggest that it be written or clarified in the LDS-BSA Newsletter by someone with authority. 否则, the handbook is pretty clear.

      1. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

        JD is correct. The green handbook has been updated specifically to clarify this policy. I have personally heard David Beck, 前男青年总会长, state that popcorn is a commercially produced product and, 因此, LDS Scouting units should not be involved in popcorn sales. The current YM general presidency concurs. Individual boys, 然而, can sell popcorn. The reason for this “new” policy is to avoid getting too close to the very thin line of IRS policies regarding the non-profit status of the Church.

  6. 说:

    As a ScoutMaster, I have blown the entire YM budget on nothing but advancement awards.

    1. 马克 说:

      I am a Scoutmaster and in my ward I am faced with the exact same challenge. The cost of the awards expected to be earned in 2016 by my troop of 9 boys will be nearly $500 at the scout store. Our total YM budget will not even be $500 for the year. If we follow the guidelines proposed by the scouting and church handbooks (1st – Ward Budget Funds, 2ND – YM raising their own $, and 3rdFundraising only for camp) then we will be having the boys raise money to pay for their own merit badge patches and rank advancements as well as all of their camping expenses other than the summer camp. Am I alone in thinking that this is a bit odd that the ward budget of our ward only covers the scout store expenses??

      1. 说:

        I think you may run into trouble with supplementing the Scout Program. I did, because the Handbook 2 guidelines are only for summer camp and troop supplies for camping. I do not understand how smaller units are supposed to run a proper Church Scout Program with such limited finance. 与 2 或 3 boys and 3 camp outs I can completely blow the primary budget. So what ends up happening is the leaders end up footing the bill even though we are not supposed to.

        The Church Scout handbooks says:

        8.15 Funding Scouting
        Leaders should follow the budget allowance guidelines in Handbook 2 to fund Scouting (请参见 8.13.7, 11.8.7, 13.2.8, 13.2.9, 13.5, 和 13.6.8). Ward budgets should be used to purchase Scouting awards and materials, as determined by local leaders. Commercially produced or packaged goods or services should not be sold.
        Scouting units may participate in Scouting shows, camporees, and other BSA activities that involve the sale of tickets by boys or young men, as long as all other budget allowance guidelines are met.
        教会支持BSA的侦察车的年度友. 这些资金为 BSA 地方理事会提供金融支持. Stake presidents and bishops oversee the drive in their units.

        1. 说:

          That should say 2 或 3 男孩, not days.

  7. There is some great advice here. But I think you need to be careful about how youlet the boys contact people and collect the funds.

    手册 2, 一节 13.6.8 状态:

    “对筹款活动的捐款是自愿的. 祭司的职任领导人应特别小心,以确保议员不会觉得有义务作出贡献.

    “利害关系和赞助的筹款活动的病房不应做广告或招揽其边界之外. Nor should they sell products or services door to door.

    还, in accordance with finance guidelines, all funds collected should go on an individual donation slip and be processed through the standard donation process. If those slips also include tithing funds, only the bishop and his counselors are authorized to receive them. So you need to be sure that slips collected by the boys include only the funds for the service being provided.

    These kinds of rules make group fundraisers challenging. 但是, as Mac said, there is no rule against a boy doing his own fundraising. I watched two boys in our unit fund all of their summer camping activities throughout their time in Young Mens by doing yard work. They did a good job for a fair price, so it was a very good thing.

  8. 史坦利施 说:

    Mac,

    What an excellent article. I recall Maj Gen Van Ripper, USMC, saying to his staff something like, “我们出的钱, therefore we must think.It was challenging, but as a unit leader we were able, through prayerful consideration, to find things within our budgets. I simply provided the place, the young men always brought the fun.

  9. 迈克尔·摹. 说:

    It is much easier and cheaper to neglect Scouting-type activities all together and merely entertain your boys with fun activities closer to home.

    That is what my ward YM president decided to do on scrapping Scouting pretty much altogether. He believed his job was to entertain boys. Basketball fever.

    One of my favorite movies of all time isSurf’s Up”, wherein the young penguin Cody Maverick is invited to carve a surfboard. He doesn’t want to be instructed, he wants to do it. Naturally his attempt fails, but he must be allowed to make the attempt, and must be allowed to fail. That opens the door, sometimes, to a bit of instruction. Not a lot. A Scoutmaster minute of instruction. Bit by bit, failure by failure, success is learned and earned; and it feels great to a young man (or this old one) to succeed mostly by one’s own effort and intellect.

    I did it!” is a better thing than mere 乐趣.

    Merit badges are part of theI did it”.

  10. Carl 貂皮 说:

    I have often wondered why as a member of the bishopric I am tasked with collecting funds for our local BSA council in the form of “童军运动的朋友” often during Sunday worship, while if those same families were to offer to fund the ward troop they would be turned away? It makes no sense to me to deny our youth opportunities to participate in activities now because we may not have monies in the future. I don’t understand the mindset that says if one ward can’t afford something then no one gets to do it. The idea is not American nor is it scripture based.

    1. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

      Obviously this is a decision made by your local priesthood leaders. I am not aware of any prohibition against accepting direct donations to a ward’s Scouting units. I know of wards who have been given ongoing endowments upon a person’s death specifically to fund young women and young men activities.

  11. Cindy S 说:

    Mac ’ s 消息 #48: 你的侦察活动提供资金

    I reviewed this message on Fundraising. Mac, you are a great source of information. Since fundraising was a huge issue for our Stake in Cub Scouts earlier this year. I read, watched webcasts, and asked many questions to understand the church’s stance on fundraising. 个人, for me there was no new information in this blog message. 然而, it was confirmation that we have instructed our packs correctly.

    I am concerned about one section of Mac’s message. I worry that units may interpret it incorrectly.

    Popcorn is considered to be a commercial product and thus the sale of popcorn is not approved as an LDS Scouting unit fundraiser. Individual young men can sign up to sell popcorn under their BSA local council as a means of paying their own way to summer camp.

    If this is interpreted to mean that an individual boy can sign-up with council to sell popcorn or camp cards for his own benefit of raising funds for camp, 等。, this is a problem!!

    Earlier this year, at round table, we received a handout titled Individual Youth Accounts Policies which stated,
    “Private benefit rules of the Internal Revenue service prohibit those involved in nonprofit fundraising from receiving a substantial personal benefit for their efforts. Some practices where dollar for dollar credit is provided for the sole benefit of the person who sold product based upon amount sold could violate the private benefit prohibition. While the BSA has not endorsed ‘Individual Scout Accounts’ for private benefit of individual Scouts who participate in fundraising because of the IRS rules, unit fundraising designed to make Scouting affordable is a fundamental part of Scouts ‘earning their way’.”

    Addtionally, the Cubcast from Dec 2014, stated the following:
    Last year there was a significant development. The IRS actually declared an organization to no longer be tax exempt. It was an organization that was a skating program for youth. The parents had organized this non-profit for the purposes of raising money so that it would offset the cost of what the youth were doing in their skating program. 不幸的是, that was the only reason the non-profit was set up was so that they could sell things or make money to then pay for what would otherwise have been the parentsobligation to support their kids in this activity. The activity was not the purpose of the organization that they set up. The organization was set up for the purposes of raising money so that they could support the skating. The IRS said that crossed the line and they removed the tax exempt status of that organization.
    So that was the first time in a long time the IRS has actually gone after a non-profit organization and removed their tax exempt status. That caused us to take a fresh look at the history of the IRSpositions on non-profits and caused us to want to take a look at our current publications and make sure that they’re accurate and make sure that we are giving guidance to our units and to our councils that is going to allow them to make good decisions in terms of how they conduct their fundraising
    另一方面, when you move over to the other side and a scout goes out and sells a lot of popcorn and the unit designates that money that he raises to be used only for that scout and only for activities that benefit that scout, we get into an issue of whether or not the IRS would consider that to be a substantial private benefit. The IRS isn’t going to go after the typical young Cub Scout that’s selling popcorn and it helps to pay for his uniforms or helps to pay for his summer camp, but to the extent we have people that are raising significant funds and those funds are being used for costs that would normally be parental obligations in connection with scouting, we’re getting into an area where the IRS has been and is paying more attention.
    (I have attached a copy of the transcript. The above info was taken from pages 4 & 5.)

    另外, I asked my District Commissioner this particular question, since I know of a family who did this….
    If a unit is having a fundraiser (not selling camp cards) and the funds raised will only cover a portion of the cost of day camp, can an individual family sell camp cards to raise their portion of the cost? Even when it is not a “包” sponsored event. I know it is impossible to cover every scenario in the Cubcast, which is why I am asking you!!”

    This was her reply, “To completely cover your bases, 保持 5 cents of the 2.50, but it could be read either way.
    Some of the money must benefit the unit. Then they can use camp cards to help pay the cost of daycamp.
    That money can be put in an emergency fund needed maybe on a campout to buy extra ice or a treat for the boys not budgeted for. I know the funding is different, but that might be a way to have a trail for the extra monies not budgeted.

    所以, my take on this is…. if a boy was to raise his own funds through BSA, a percentage of those funds needs to be given to the unit, for the benefit of the unit. That is the BSA’s take on it. If the stake/church is ok with this type of activity, then I believe the family would have to give that money as a fundraising item to the pack.

    谢谢!!

    1. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

      Thank you very much for this information. I stand corrected.

  12. 布莱斯 说:

    My Bishopric didn’t create a ward budget, spent all the money, left my troop totally not funded for the last 6 个月. They have given the entire young men’s program $1400 for the year, which will all be used on advancements and to reimburse members still waiting for reimbursements. Now the Bishop wants to do a fundraiser topay backthe scout budget because he decided to have the troop attend a $500/boy camp instead of a $100/boy camp. I’m not going to leave the church over it, and all it’s done is motivate me to find ways to make more money so I can bankroll my troop. What can be done? I think it is wrong to fund raise when the price was already paid by the ward. How am I supposed to sell the fundraiser, “Help us raise money to cover the poor stewardship of our local leadership?”
    The LDS troop budget is a real issue, until it is addressed Scout Masters like me will continue to eat the costs of the program. I see this as a covenant duty. I can either pay for the necessary expenses myself or have the boys stop coming after a couple months of no activities. What is to be done? Is there a way to ask for more funds because of poor decisions? Is it better to let the boys stop coming than for me to spend my own money?

    1. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

      布莱斯,

      It’s obvious you are true to yourcovenantto serve faithfully in your calling. Thank you for your service and sacrifice!

      It’s always sad to see how the decision of one or two people can adversely impact many people. 同时, the conflict of financing Scouting activities in the Church by following the policy is one that, 在我看来, is difficult to rectify. Last year my ward spent over $3,000 alone on merit badges, 等级地位, and Eagle Scout regalia. We run a very good Scouting program and our boys work hard on learning Scouting skills and advancing to the rank of Eagle. Add to this the cost of separate summer camps for our Boy Scouts and high-adventure Varsity Scouts and Venturers and it becomes very obvious that Scouting, done the right way, is an expensive program. I will confess that very few receipts are turned in by our Scouting leaders for the programs, 郊游, and activities we provide.

      I would love to receive more in depth, well-thought-out, and serious guidance on how to conduct and fund a well-run Scouting program in the Church. Without this insight I think it is too easy, and too logical, for local leaders to default to no-cost activities like sports, 游戏, or entertainment instead of Scouting programs and activities. 在我看来, funding is one of the greatest barriers to success for LDS Scouting. This is an issue that must be resolved.

      1. 布莱斯 说:

        Mac,

        谢谢您的回复! I discussed the issue with my father-in-law, a lifelong Scout & Scout Master. It’s apparent that we all have similar issues to overcome, but they are surmountable. I am focusing on building my boys into true leaders. A true leader is someone who has a vision, empowers others to participate in that vision, creates momentum in the group, is well liked and develops others around him into leaders. I know that when I’ve developed my SPL into a true leader and our patrol method is functioning. The money will be there as needed. I’ve seen the Lord’s hand too many times in this arduous process to imagine Him letting the Boys progress be halted by money. Perhaps there is intentionally a gap in the guidance in funding a troop; and maybe by design the Lord uses this gap to test our Faith and enable us to develop as He desires and we prove worthy.

        Thanks for lifting my spirits by sharing your sincere response, and thank you for remaining true to your quest and providing a light to those around you.

  13. Fred A. 说:

    Our Troop has the best scouting program in the stake. We have a successful fundraiser each year. Thanks to the fundraiser and the hard work of the scouts we are advancing a lot of YM to Eagle. We are by far the poorest ward in the stake. Over half the scouts live in trailers. If not for the fundraiser, the scouts would have no money. Since my stake also does Trek, our scout budget is only 200 per year. Now the stake has found out how much money we have, and wants to take it and spread it out to the other wards, which are pretty well off. is this right and what can I do to stop it.

    1. JD 说:

      Fred

      Your Bishop should push the Green Scout Handbook to the Stake as those Funds are Ward/Scouting. Unless it was a joint Ward/Stake Fundraiser, I don’t see this being an issue for you.

      Budget are done Ward by Ward. Then the Wards determine how to spend the funds. Ward then can do their own fundraising for specific purposes. The Bishop is ultimately the steward of those funds in behalf of your Scout Unit.

      节 – 8.15 Funding Scouting
      https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/english/young-men/35814_scout-handbook_eng.pdf?lang=eng

      Red Handbook – 手册 2 to fund Scouting (see Sections – 8.13.7, 11.8.7, 13.2.8, 13.2.9, 13.5, 和 13.6.8)

  14. Edwin van Stam 说:

    Mac,

    Would it be acceptable to inform ward members that they can make a voluntary donation to the Scouting program / Youth Camps? Another question is if the individual Scouts can do chores for neighbors and have donations/payment directly deposited in the ward budget towards camp fees? Are there rules against these procedures? My thought is that it would be acceptable to ask the Ward members to prayerfully consider jobs the youth can do to earn money towards a Council camp and that the boy will collect these funds, pay tithing and deposit funds towards Council camp through the Ward up to an agreed balance to cover camp fees and possibly food and directly related expenses. I very much appreciate your messages and the quarterly newsletters. It is great to hear well thought our and inspired messages from experienced Scouters.

    1. Mac 麦金太尔 说:

      I believe it is acceptable for members to make direct donations for Scouting. Since I have been unable to attend our ward Scouting fund raiser for the last several years, I just make a donation each year directly to the wardotherfund that is used for Scout and Young Women summer camps. I know others make similar donations.

      As far as work projects for the boys, this is a great way for the boys to learn many lessons, particularly self-reliance. The members could either make their checks for the work out to the ward as a donation to theotheraccount on behalf of the boy, or they could pay the boy directly and have him use it to cover his summer camp. 答案是肯定的, if he is paid directly, in my opinion this would be considered income, and he should pay tithing on hisincrease.

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